{"id":171112,"date":"2021-03-22T13:44:12","date_gmt":"2021-03-22T12:44:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/?p=171112"},"modified":"2021-03-22T14:47:39","modified_gmt":"2021-03-22T13:47:39","slug":"hongaars-google-translate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/hongaars-google-translate\/","title":{"rendered":"Vrouw ontdekt seksisme in Google Translate en wekt veel verontwaardiging"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hongaars is een genderneutrale taal, wat betekent dat de taal geen geslachtsgebonden voornaamwoorden heeft. Maar wat gebeurt er als je de <a href=\"https:\/\/partner.bol.com\/click\/click?p=2&amp;t=url&amp;s=1107111&amp;f=TXL&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bol.com%2Fnl%2Ff%2Ftaalcursus-hongaars%2F9200000053874631%2F&amp;name=Taalcursus%20Hongaars\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hongaarse taal<\/a> door Google Translate haalt naar het Engels? Dan vult de taalmachine automatisch het geslacht voor jou in. Als het aan Dora ligt, is hier sprake van seksisme. Want &#8216;zij&#8217; maakt schoon en &#8216;hij&#8217; is een politicus? Erg opmerkelijk.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>1. Dora plaatste dit bericht op Twitter, waarin zij laat zien wat er gebeurt als je Hongaars vertaalt naar Engels via Google Translate.<\/h3>\n<div class=\"dbsm-oembed\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Hungarian is a gender neutral language, it has no gendered pronouns, so Google Translate automatically chooses the gender for you. Here is how everyday sexism is consistently encoded in 2021. Fuck you, Google. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/EPqkEw5yEQ\">pic.twitter.com\/EPqkEw5yEQ<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Dora Vargha (@DoraVargha) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DoraVargha\/status\/1373211762108076034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 20, 2021<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-171113 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew6g0YQXMAENGcE.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2048\" height=\"1423\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew6g0YQXMAENGcE.jpeg 2048w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew6g0YQXMAENGcE-300x208.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew6g0YQXMAENGcE-1024x712.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew6g0YQXMAENGcE-768x534.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew6g0YQXMAENGcE-1536x1067.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2048px) 100vw, 2048px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>2. En dat is pijnlijk om te lezen voor velen.<\/h3>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">I&#8217;ve no words for how apathetic I am towards this, what you say is, sexism.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Chris \ud83c\uddec\ud83c\udde7 (@christlr11) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/christlr11\/status\/1373282130877382657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 20, 2021<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Great example of how everyone thinks algorithms are neutral and will fix human biases but actually they reinforce and amplify them. Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez has a lot of data about this in, for example, hiring<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Dr. Stephanie Lovett (@uffishthot) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/uffishthot\/status\/1373298970609471492?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 20, 2021<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>3. Deze persoon stelt dat het niet de fout van <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/neurie-functie\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Google<\/a> is.<\/h3>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">To be fair it&#8217;s not Google&#8217;s fault. It&#8217;s using a statistical language model build from data scrapped from the web. There are huge efforts in tha machine learning community to degender biases like this, but it&#8217;s not easy.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 L\u00e9a \ud83c\uddeb\ud83c\uddf7 (@la_lea_la) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/la_lea_la\/status\/1373270484217909248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 20, 2021<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>4. Ook doen sommigen naar aanleiding van dit bericht hun eigen research. En dat bevestigt het idee dat er sprake is van <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/twitteraar-kaart-hypocriet-gedrag-rondom-seksisme-aan-begint-discussie\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">seksisme<\/a>.<\/h3>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">OK I did my own experiment and wrote &#8220;She is an engineer. He is beautiful&#8221; then swapped the translation back to English. That&#8217;s mad sexist <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Google?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@Google<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/TikEzjTxTU\">pic.twitter.com\/TikEzjTxTU<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 ZombieTron (@ZombieTron) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ZombieTron\/status\/1373342849220100104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 20, 2021<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-171117 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCbQWYAMbsAt-485x1024.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"485\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCbQWYAMbsAt-485x1024.jpeg 485w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCbQWYAMbsAt-142x300.jpeg 142w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCbQWYAMbsAt-768x1622.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCbQWYAMbsAt-728x1536.jpeg 728w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCbQWYAMbsAt.jpeg 970w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 485px) 100vw, 485px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-171118 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCvXWUAEyvmM-485x1024.jpeg\" alt=\"Google\" width=\"485\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCvXWUAEyvmM-485x1024.jpeg 485w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCvXWUAEyvmM-142x300.jpeg 142w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCvXWUAEyvmM-768x1622.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCvXWUAEyvmM-728x1536.jpeg 728w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew8YCvXWUAEyvmM.jpeg 970w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 485px) 100vw, 485px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>5. Een andere genderneutrale taal is het Fins. Ook dit werd nagekeken en opmerkelijk genoeg verschijnen daar toch een aantal andere resultaten.<\/h3>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Finnish is another gender neutral language. The result is mostly the same but with some interesting differences: according to Google, cooking, baking a cake and being an assistant are male activities in Finland. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/gMUbKqldeH\">pic.twitter.com\/gMUbKqldeH<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Teppo Kr\u00f6ger (@teppokroger) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teppokroger\/status\/1373258251857432580?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 20, 2021<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-171119 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew7JA8lWUAEKgDW.png\" alt=\"Google\" width=\"668\" height=\"479\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew7JA8lWUAEKgDW.png 668w, https:\/\/www.thebestsocial.media\/nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/03\/Ew7JA8lWUAEKgDW-300x215.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 668px) 100vw, 668px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>6. Tot slot is iemand erg benieuwd welk geslacht Google hem\/haarzelf toewijst.<\/h3>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Which gender does Google assign his\/herself?<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 BCNT (@BCNThomson) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/BCNThomson\/status\/1373213272397205505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 20, 2021<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"und\">Umm&#8230; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/Y5sNZ6fBki\">pic.twitter.com\/Y5sNZ6fBki<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Dora Vargha (@DoraVargha) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DoraVargha\/status\/1373214941654704131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 20, 2021<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Heb jij de schoorsteenmantel op je (thuis)kantoor al afgestoft? Grote en kleine bedrijven kunnen namelijk van 3 t\/m 26 maart hun beste werk inzenden voor <a href=\"https:\/\/thebestsocialawards.nl\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Best Social Awards.<\/a> Dus kom maar door met die cr\u00e8me de la content. \ud83d\udd25<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/kd7Bv_Ma_YM\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hongaars is een genderneutrale taal, wat betekent dat de taal geen geslachtsgebonden voornaamwoorden heeft. Maar wat gebeurt er als je de Hongaarse taal door Google&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":171152,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[16,17],"tags":[2583,3976,3977,2418,3862],"class_list":["post-171112","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blogs","category-nieuws","tag-gender","tag-google-translate","tag-hongaars","tag-seksisme","tag-voornaamwoorden"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Vrouw ontdekt seksisme in Google Translate en wekt verontwaardiging<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Het Hongaars is een genderneutrale taal. 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